Q. Thank you so much for responding to my letter. I did
want some clarity on these trees because I was surprised you determined this
was a watering and not sunscald. First off, these trees are in a courtyard about 5 ft
apart and they are on the same run station.
The trees on the south wall are actually shaded by the wall. The trees on the north wall are getting more
direct sun, so I figured the leaves had sunscald.
want some clarity on these trees because I was surprised you determined this
was a watering and not sunscald. First off, these trees are in a courtyard about 5 ft
apart and they are on the same run station.
The trees on the south wall are actually shaded by the wall. The trees on the north wall are getting more
direct sun, so I figured the leaves had sunscald.
If you don’t mind my asking, why do you think it’s a
watering issue? I clearly diagnosed it incorrectly so I’d like to learn how to
better diagnosis this issue if I come across this again.
watering issue? I clearly diagnosed it incorrectly so I’d like to learn how to
better diagnosis this issue if I come across this again.
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| Readers Podocarpus with leaf scorch on the north side. |
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| Podocarpus showing no signs of leaf scorch and with rock mulch, a potential problem in the future. |
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It is
always difficult to assess a situation remotely. I have to rely on what I know
about a particular plant, our climate and soils and my personal experience. I
have these plants myself and they are located next to my home on the east side.
They get a very small amount of water but it is regularly applied.
always difficult to assess a situation remotely. I have to rely on what I know
about a particular plant, our climate and soils and my personal experience. I
have these plants myself and they are located next to my home on the east side.
They get a very small amount of water but it is regularly applied.
First of
all, we know they are not true desert plants so we have to add a lot of extra
things to get them to grow well here. Soil improvement at planting times is one of them. They will do better with wood surface mulches as well as long as you keep them away from the trunk during the first five years. Besides that, the microclimate or their
exposure to the elements can make a difference.
all, we know they are not true desert plants so we have to add a lot of extra
things to get them to grow well here. Soil improvement at planting times is one of them. They will do better with wood surface mulches as well as long as you keep them away from the trunk during the first five years. Besides that, the microclimate or their
exposure to the elements can make a difference.
I also
know that these plants can suffer if they get watered too often or if they
don’t get enough water. The problem is, they look similar if they get watered
too often or not enough. When they get watered too often, the roots begin to
die. Once the roots begin to die they can’t take up enough water and they look
like they are drought stressed. Drought stress will be leaf tip burn like yours or even branch dieback if it is extreme. If it is a chronic lack of water in summer months they usually have leaf tip burn.
know that these plants can suffer if they get watered too often or if they
don’t get enough water. The problem is, they look similar if they get watered
too often or not enough. When they get watered too often, the roots begin to
die. Once the roots begin to die they can’t take up enough water and they look
like they are drought stressed. Drought stress will be leaf tip burn like yours or even branch dieback if it is extreme. If it is a chronic lack of water in summer months they usually have leaf tip burn.
I know
that plants growing on the north side of the building, or the east side as in
my case, are in a cooler location than they are on the South or West sides.
High temperatures, wind and lots of sunlight drive plant water use up
tremendously. So, plants on the north side and East side will not use as much
water as they would on the South and West sides.
that plants growing on the north side of the building, or the east side as in
my case, are in a cooler location than they are on the South or West sides.
High temperatures, wind and lots of sunlight drive plant water use up
tremendously. So, plants on the north side and East side will not use as much
water as they would on the South and West sides.
(As a side note, ideally, we should be irrigating plants on the south and west sides differently than the plants on the north and east sides. This means they should be on different valves.)
You
called it sunscald and in a way you are right. Usually the term sunscald has to
do with burning of the limbs and trunk of a tree, not the leaves. But that is a
technical issue and you would not necessarily know that as a layperson but I
got what you meant. We would actually call this leaf scorch or tip burn.
called it sunscald and in a way you are right. Usually the term sunscald has to
do with burning of the limbs and trunk of a tree, not the leaves. But that is a
technical issue and you would not necessarily know that as a layperson but I
got what you meant. We would actually call this leaf scorch or tip burn.
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| Leaf scorch on mockorange |
Leaf
scorch typically occurs around the margin of the leaf. Leaf scorch occurs
because not enough water is being pulled by the roots of the plant and
transported to the leaves. The margins of the leaves, or edges, are furthest from
the veins and they are the first to show a lack of water, resulting in scorch.
scorch typically occurs around the margin of the leaf. Leaf scorch occurs
because not enough water is being pulled by the roots of the plant and
transported to the leaves. The margins of the leaves, or edges, are furthest from
the veins and they are the first to show a lack of water, resulting in scorch.
A lack
of water can occur because not enough water is applied, or there is root
damage so it can’t take up enough water, or the plant is just is not suitable
for a very hot and dry climate and it can’t take up enough water in enough
volume. We see leaf scorch in plants here like the really big sycamores (that always get cut down when they are about 15 years old because they look so bad) and a few others.
of water can occur because not enough water is applied, or there is root
damage so it can’t take up enough water, or the plant is just is not suitable
for a very hot and dry climate and it can’t take up enough water in enough
volume. We see leaf scorch in plants here like the really big sycamores (that always get cut down when they are about 15 years old because they look so bad) and a few others.
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| Sycamore with leaf scorch due to reflected heat from south facing wall |
We will also see leaf scorch from plants that are stressed in other ways. For instance, if a plant is suffering in a lack of a nutrient, like iron in iron chlorosis, it will scorch when the same plant which is healthy will not. An unhealthy plant just cannot handle the extremes like a healthy one can.
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| Leaf scorch resulting from iron chlorosis in apricot |
Your
plants have leaf scorch or the leaves are dying back on the north side but they
are doing well on the south side, as you said. I am assuming that the plants on
the north and south sides are getting similar amounts of water. If they are
good on the south side, then it appears like they can handle that very hot and
bright exposure okay (at least for now).
plants have leaf scorch or the leaves are dying back on the north side but they
are doing well on the south side, as you said. I am assuming that the plants on
the north and south sides are getting similar amounts of water. If they are
good on the south side, then it appears like they can handle that very hot and
bright exposure okay (at least for now).
These same plants
should have no problem handling a north (less stressful) exposure … but they ARE having
trouble. So I ask myself, why do they look poorly on the north side when that
should be where they look the best? The reason they look bad on the north side is because of leaf
scorch, judging from your picture.
should have no problem handling a north (less stressful) exposure … but they ARE having
trouble. So I ask myself, why do they look poorly on the north side when that
should be where they look the best? The reason they look bad on the north side is because of leaf
scorch, judging from your picture.
Leaf
scorch is a lack of water and my reasoning tells me that perhaps water is
applied to often or the soil cannot drain adequately and roots of the plants
are dying on the north side. This would result in leaf scorch in the areas where the plants are
receiving watered too often or the soil cannot drain adequately. Whereas the plants on the south side are not. So I reasoned
that the soil was staying too wet on the north side. On the south side, where
it is hotter and water is lost more quickly, the roots are not dying and they
are surviving.
scorch is a lack of water and my reasoning tells me that perhaps water is
applied to often or the soil cannot drain adequately and roots of the plants
are dying on the north side. This would result in leaf scorch in the areas where the plants are
receiving watered too often or the soil cannot drain adequately. Whereas the plants on the south side are not. So I reasoned
that the soil was staying too wet on the north side. On the south side, where
it is hotter and water is lost more quickly, the roots are not dying and they
are surviving.
That is
in a nutshell my reasoning for what I said. I could be very wrong but with that
particular plant I would’ve guessed the opposite would’ve normally occurred; you would
have seen leaf scorch on the plants on the south side, not the north side. I
will be happy to talk with you further about this if you think I am wrong.
in a nutshell my reasoning for what I said. I could be very wrong but with that
particular plant I would’ve guessed the opposite would’ve normally occurred; you would
have seen leaf scorch on the plants on the south side, not the north side. I
will be happy to talk with you further about this if you think I am wrong.